Argentina: Adolfo Pérez Esquivel: “Macri would be happy with the flag of the United States in our country”

11/19.21 – The Nobel Peace Prize winner and activist in the defense of human rights spoke with AGENCIA PACO URONDO and analyzed multiple issues related to his career in the protection of human rights.

The Nobel Peace Prize winner and activist in the defense of human rights, Adolfo Pérez Esquivel, spoke with AGENCIA PACO URONDO and reviewed multiple issues related to his career linked to the protection of human rights.

AGENCIA PACO URONDO: If you had to make a definition about yourself, how would you define yourself?

Adolfo Pérez Esquivel: I define myself simply as a human being. Who tries to learn to live. Trying to nourish myself with the popular sectors and the greatest diversity that inhabit the world. I never wanted to build a character on my true person. Many hide behind the characters. They are simply unreal constructions, they are actors who are handled that way. I always seek to be simply a person. Just the opposite of being a character.

APU: What is your assessment of your experience in the 70s?

APE: The 1970s expresses what was already happening long before in Latin America. Military dictatorships, oppression, poverty. Those same evils that had plagued the continent for centuries. However, with the emergence of dictatorships promoted by the United States to consolidate its domination. His ideological tool was the National Security Doctrine. These practices produced profound damage that over time became irreparable. We should first seek resistance and awareness of what was happening. Later the organization would come in front of that barbarism that was going through us. Humanity was in danger and it was imperative to do something to stop it. Unfortunately it had a high human cost, however we had the ability to unite and generate unity in the towns to stop all that barbarism. We were part of that process, we suffered exile, persecution, jails, torture, flights of death. We are survivors of a genocide that was committed in our country but also throughout the Latin American continent.

APU. How do you see from a distance having been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize?

APE: 41 years have passed since I received it and I always saw it as an instrument at the service of the peoples. The idea was always that it would serve for the struggle for peace and justice on the part of the peoples. That is the sole purpose of that award. I never saw it as my own. So much so that I assumed it on behalf of the Latin American peoples. On behalf of the indigenous people, the peasants, men and women of the towns. He is currently in the house of the Latin American Nobel Laureates. In our headquarters of resistance where all the awards in favor of the Latin American peoples are gathered. I think that’s the best place where they should be.

APU: How do you analyze the situation of Human Rights in our country in recent years?

APE: At present I see a government that does everything possible to defend human rights and all rights in general. However, it is necessary to understand the issue of human rights from a more comprehensive point of view. Not only the episodes of torture, disappearances and deaths. It is also necessary to include the problems of the environment, development and self-determination of peoples. In these aspects we have our weaknesses. Democracy is a construction. We are in a process of building democracy that is not easy. Macroism has devastated the country. It is also a government that did a lot of damage at the continental level. Support for the coup against Evo Morales in Bolivia. Collaborate with all destabilizing attempts against Venezuela. Boycott all Venezuelan companies in our country. Macri has a colonial mentality. I would be very happy to place the emblem of the United States flag in our country. That is very serious. It leaves us an immoral and unjust foreign debt. The IMF (international monetary fund) puts pressure on the country to achieve a negotiation that favors it. It is necessary to reverse the serious situation that the previous government left us.

APU: What should be the way forward to reverse this situation?

APE: We must restore sovereignty and strengthen democracy. It is necessary to strengthen popular rights. Argentina is a country impoverished by neoliberal policies. The delivery of the national patrimony to the hands of the foreign corporations. It is necessary to find new ways of doing politics to build something different from what we are experiencing. That company will take time and a lot of effort. It is the way to go.

APU: How do you analyze the progress of the right at the global level?

APE: Unfortunately, this advance of the right is not only happening here, but also throughout the world. This is a consequence of the appropriation of the word, of the language of the peoples. In Brazil with Bolsonaro, in Chile with Piñera. But also in European countries, in Africa. It is necessary to deepen much the aspects of awareness of the peoples. Fundamentally the new generations that did not live dictatorships. Cultural resistance is also vital. They achieved a cultural domination that must be transformed and given a different content. The right always looks for a way to penetrate the immense population to manipulate them. The exit passes through cultural resistance, critical awareness, education as a practice of freedom are essential to avoid those deviations that always end in violence.

APU: What do you consider to be the root cause of institutional violence today?

APE: Undoubtedly there is social violence but there is also that which is structural. Much of the violence suffered by young people in the neighborhoods is driven by the media. They are the generators of violence on many occasions. Promoting discrimination and stigmatization of impoverished sectors. There is no critical view that considers the root of poverty. The social condemnation of those humble sectors that currently suffer is easier.


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Argentina: Adolfo Pérez Esquivel: “Macri would be happy with the flag of the United States in our country”